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Ya know piaggio own a goodly part of apprilia don't ya!! they may re badge it to Vespa  :laughcont:

Only joking, looks the D's B's  :cool:

Course I'm too big for one o these, cripple mi wrists crutch rokets do

Nice un!
Looks like it shares a lot of parts with the falco.
Have you got crash bungs on yours,? the only place locally ive seen them was in HG glasgow £70 and that just for the rears.
Managed to get the mini indicators working by using a combo of 4 + 23 watt bulbs.
Cant wait till the roads clear up a bit and i gat to ride the feckin thing(oh i must remember to get insurance first!)

I fear this may be pot calling kettle ...

but ...

TART!

That's very nice. I could see myself on one of those.  :cool:

id prefer a rsvmille myself , preferably the haga replica  :D

Oh EB I'd like a Haga rep too :buttrock:

The Tuono is a wee bit more practical but still with 130+ BHP  :wwww:  :D

That can must go tho', they weigh about 18lbs

Ging,

I don't have crash bungs. Never had 'em on any of my bikes. They wouldn't have stopped the ZX9 being wrtten off anyway.

Mine is standard apart from belly pan, Blue Flame cans, K & N and an Arrow Eprom.

Roll on sunnier days

Hopefully they be one at the Scottish bike show this year.

The handle bars look kind of high up, similar to the fazer thou. Or is it my imagination. Are they like that on the falco.

I saw one of them on the showroom floor up in Aberdeen last week.
Fit like. Furry boots.

Shirlaws I think.

I know of someone with a Mille with the matt black paint who polished it with Mr Sheene.

Did it ruin the paintwork.  :O

That matt black stuff looks kind of weird stuff to take care of.

My next bike is almost deffo gonna be one of these....

http://uk.yme.com/Yme2/sites/EUR/resources...-English-RL.pdf

and hopefully by the time we head for the NW.. now let's see what Mr. Bennett has to say about it....

Velly nice, but my insurance company doesn't like these big fast bikes (ZXR1200, Fazer1000, .....) - only wee bikes and Trumpets (or Beemers) so .... has anyone else heard the stories I've been hearing about a "baby" version of the Z1000 based on the new ZX6R: a Z650 or Z636? Apparently it looses the silly ray-gun exhausts and gets a proper 4-2-1 system. Would it be a rival for Triumph's Speed Four?

Could be fun.

- Spud.

Is the insurance quite reasonable for the trumpets.

[BikerDave enquired about insuring a musical instrument]

Very reasonable. I know everyone is unique (thank goodness) but I get fully comp cover on my Sprint Exec for £320 with 3 yrs no claims discount. For comparison, any quotes I've had for a VFR are about £680 at best. CBR600 is about the same. ZX-9, Fazer 1000, Hornet 900 are about £800-£900. The ZRX1200 was less but I can't remember how much. A Fazer 600 came in about the same as the Sprint.

Looking at new Triumphs, the Speed Triple was most expensive at about £370, a new Sprint RS was coming in at more or less exactly the same as my current bike. I guess they pull less Triumphs out of ditches than the others.



I also know that Triumph's own insurance is probably cheaper, but I like the option of being able to get something non Triumph and not lose no claims. I've not had a claim in 5 yrs but am only at 3 yrs because of changing bikes.


That's why I'm after another one. Unless Yamaha's own insurance scheme can bring a Fazer 1000 within reach ....

That seems very reasonable. I'll need to check out a couple of quotes for trumpets.

Could have sworn MCN ran an article on the Z600 a month or so back - but search gets nothing back.  Thibnk it mentioned using the 636 motor.

Ah the benefit of a few more years (both age and no claims)  The Viffer for me (37, 6 years no claims without 1 accident disclosed) comes in at £331.  Of course I should disclose the accident even though it was in the car and that pushes it up to £459!  Same cover for a Trophy 1200 is £350 with full disclosure.

Which is one of the reasons (along with the price £5899 bh*) I've been considering swapping the Viffer for a 2001 Trophy with only 221 miles on the clock (unless its a typo and if not what were they doing?).  

Any SB's reading this for gawds sake don't tell Stef or Mik I mentioned this.

Anyone any experience of the Trophy, riding position, seat height (lower than the Viffer by a few mm according to the spec), servicing costs (I don't do diy when it comes to mechanical things that may go pop) etc. in comparison to the Viffer?

*before haggling

I remember a bloke from Glasgow, who bought a R6 just after he passed his DAS or returned to biking, can't remember which. If I remember correctly, he did less than 150 miles on it and ended up scared of it.  :O He ended up leaving the bikes again as far as I know. So I suppose the 221 miles could be genuine, is it was for similar reasons.

It could be the prev owner just got sick of peeps telling him/her they SHOULD have got a viffer in the 1st place!

I know a guy who had a Honda, sold it for a sprint ST, sold that cos it was too "agricultural " & bought another Honda-horses for courses n all that.

Well I was too late. Went in today to get an idea of what trade in they'd offer me but the Trophy had gone.

But they had another one, 2002 bike 205 miles for £6499 (new are £7,349 so nearly a grand off what is basically a brand new bike).  I'm somewhat curious as to why they keep getting traded in at such low mileage but am going back for a test ride on Tuesday so maybe I'll find out.

Although there is nothing actually wrong with the viffer the riding position is aggravating a problem I have with my shoulders so am looking for something a little more upright and maybe the Trophy will fit the bill.

If there's any sensible offers for the Viffer (year 2000 red Y reg 8500 miles Scottoiler, full Nonfango luggage, fsh) I may be tempted to do a deal privately instead.

The vfr is a hell of a bike to try and replace. You could maybe post your opinions of the trophy after the test ride.


I don't think you'll have many problems getting rid of your viffer. I looks as if its in very good nick.  :bowdown:

new test to see if new comes out red.

No I'm not going mad.  Try clicking on new posts and then select this thread and you'll see what I mean!

Dave I think the search for new posts is taking it a little too literally!

Ian,

My Sprint Executive is .... sorry .... was ... a 900 Trophy in a bikini rather than a full dress. It is top heavy, and my 10 1/2 stone versus it's "high" 40 stones was an issue when paddling it in petrol stations and in car parks.

Once on th road, it was good fun - torquey as heck!! The 1200 trophy is a wee bit heavier, a bit more torquey again with a few extra ponies a a little thirstier. Remember the Trophy has the last 900 and 1200 Hinckley lumps before they went fuel injected and bored the triple to 955, so it *is* mechanically noisy at tickover. Listen out for alternator rattle as a haggling point.

If someone found the ST agricultural, then the 900 Trophy is positively Massey Ferguson - but generally only at tickover. Mine was as noisy a one as I ever heard though, and it never missed a beat. I reckon the 900 had more "soul" than the 1200 which is turbine like.

Parts for them are not quite Honda expensive but are close. Servicing is probably better over the long run as the service intervals are 6k compared with 4k.

There are some *very* good deals on the Trophy 1200, probably because we expect a new shaft driven Trophy next year with a 4-cylinder version of the 955i motor. This is the last run of the Trophy. It's a *lot* of bike for the money, but defintely try it out for a decent run. Very comfy and can hustle, just play with it lots in town first if you do a lot of fiddling through traffic.

Oh, what happened to my Sprint Exec? I sold it. I'm borrowing more cash from one of our very friendly banks, and spending more on a biek than I ever thought I would. What's tempted me to this madness?

A 2002 (ex-demo) Sprint ST, with the revised 955i motor. 100Nm of torque at a tad over 5100 rpm sir? That'll do nicely.

Enjoy the test ride (and don't forget to have a look at the "new" 2001 model Sprint RS's while you're there - £5500 on the road - bargain!!)

- Spud.

Thanks for the info Spud.

I ain't been 10 and 1/2 stone for quite some time as you well know so I don't think that will be much of a problem as long as the seat isn't too high/wide to get me feet firmly planted.  Sprint RS or ST would give me the same problem as the Viffer is so they don't really come into the equation.  And if there is any rattle from anywhere I'll be walking away (well riding the Viffer actually) as its only got 205 miles on it so everything should still be spot on.

Good luck with the Sprint though, if I end up keeping the Viffer for a while yet we shall have to do our own comparison test.

I see what you mean. I've never noticed that before. I'll need to look into it.


Or I could just change the text, that you search from being highlighted red and forget about it.  :angel:  :laughcont:

Will not be a Trophy.  Despite not suffering the lack of bulk that Spud endures I am defficient in the leg area.  No I don't have one or both missing, they are just too damn short.  Couldn't get anything other than the tips of my toes on one foot down at a time.  Riding position was excellent for my shoulders but unless I never stopped I just would not be able to balance.  So its keep the Viffer and keep taking the pain killers unless the doc can sort me out.

There were other things that I wasn't totally happy with also.  The rear brake was non-existent which doesn't help with slow speed manouevering when you're trying not to put your feet down.  The wind noise and buffeting from the screen was also very intrusive even at slow speeds (<30mph) and gets worse with speed.  I don't therefore think that I would ever really get on with it.  Apart from that the bike was great with lashings of torque no matter what gear.

Ian, have you tried a chiropractor for your shoulders?
Works bloody wonders for me.

Not yet, docs got me taking Ibuprofen at the moment but they've done nothing but give me indigestion (one of the side effects apparently).  Some physio is on the cards next but there's a waiting list don't you know!

Physios are like triumphs-Chiros are like RED vfr's.
Get the drift?
A chiropractor will sort you out MUCH quicker/better than a physio ever can-been there got the T-shirt & video & almost had a court case thrown in for good measure.

Attended the Company physio for 7 weeks after my works injury-after each session I complained that the pain was intense & I wasnt getting any benefit from it. I was told that the "hyper extension" excersises were the right thing for me & not to be a cry baby-no pain no gain sh!te.
So like the mug that I am I put up with it-until I got sooooo pissed off I went to see a Chiro-who promptly diagnosed(something physios cant do) that all the hyper extensions were doing was to tear the already damaged muscle tissue-half an hour of manipulation & I felt better than I had for bloody weeks.
Rant over, I'll get me coat.

Ian,

Do the chiro thing.  I went for one assessment/manipulation, then 2 followups.  Instant results (not guaranteed, obviously). First vist, no pain for a week. Second bit longer, third visit, three months pain free.  Going back next week for a check up and re-adjustment.

Other benefit is better posture.  I actually feel like I am walking taller.  (He said I had developed PC shoulders).

Worth every penny.

Barra

Well, it looks like a BMW is now favourite (R1150RT).  After attending the Scottish Bike show I took a trip into Two Wheels in Embra to have a proper sit on a new Pan with the seat adjusted to its lowest position.  Still too tall but not as bad as the Trophy and David, being the helpful chap he is said he could have the seat cut down for me for free.  Then sat down and talked a deal and he offered me £5350 for my Viffer which is quite reasonable for a trade in I thought looking at the prices they are being advertised at in MCN leaving me looking at either £5000 for a standard Pan or £6000 for a deluxe model (electric screen and ABS).  Said I'd think about it as the Pan is very heavy and carries that weight high up.

Decided to take a drive to BMW Motorrad at Bishopbriggs today to see what they had as I'd sat on an R1150RT at the show.  They have a second hand one (2002, including heated grips and ABS and electric screen are standard) for £8450 with just under 5k on it.  New they are £9695 (nearly £1700 cheaper than the Deluxe Pan and for me about £120 cheaper to insure).  Heated grips and radio would take it up to £10,445 which is only just over the standard Pan (but with the saving on insurance effectively the same). They also don't feel as top heavy though they are still heavy bikes.  They have agreed to let me test ride one next weekend (them being in Glasgow and me working in Edinburgh means week days are not possible and as they've only been open a week they don't have any PDI'd yet) and they will take a look at the Viffer for value (initial low estimate without seeing the bike was £4350 which is similar to what Two Wheels said before I went back to see the Pan and they upped it to £5350 having seen the Viffer so I reckon there is potential for more).

Other option was an FJR1300 but Carrick's in Edinburgh were closed today because of the show so I didn't get a chance to go in and see them but they do have one sat in the window (couldn't see a price but it had luggage attached which is not standard and £500 extra normally) so maybe a trip down tomorrow lunch time may be in order.

Test route for next week, what do you westies think?

Went into Carrick's this afternoon on the way home (well not exactly as its in the total opposite direction but hey I had to take a look).  They have a silver 2002 FJR1300 for £7775 including luggage with only 1800 miles on the clock so its barely more than run in.  Bloke who had it before traded it for an ABS model after having it for less than a year.  Going back for a test ride on Thursday as long as it hasn't gone.  They gave me a provisional figure on the VFR of £4500 - £4800 without seeing the bike so again I think there may be some room for manoeuver.

That looks like a good route. I wish it was me.

1800 miles and he traded it for the same bike with ABS  :O , some people have got too much money IMHO.

So what , I'm jealous okay.  :angry: