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Paula
I own a Suzuki Burgman, all 205kg, I am not very strong, I can ride it into my forecourt over two small slopes with tight turning so normally quite secure.

but sometimes it needs to be stored inside for a few weeks. I need to ride it up a slope that is 35" high and about 4 ft long so its steep. I tried riding it in but once in I dont have the length of the bike I have to swing it sideways on the stand.. So I cant accellerate otherwise I hit a wall, Its automatic so at low speed not much power so its twist and go and brake.. but I just cant hold it being on a slope my feet wont reach down.. sigh... Walking it in with using motor, too steep, tried several times either way.. two drops later topbox scratched etc.. bike a few new scratches.. crying here.

Ok I dont want to sell it, alternative is a shed that will cost £2500 which insurance would accept.

Question. There are motorcycle dolly's there are motorcycle lifts, is there anything about that I can put the bike on, secure it on it, and that use an electric pulley and my hands and someone else aiding me to get it up these steps? Anyone? Is there anything on the market apart from ramps that would be no good to me either it is the weight of the bike that I am fighting.

I picture a very strong dolly that I can secure my bike on without toppling and a pulley line that is secured to a wall with possibly even a remote control .... Any one knows of anything like that?
snapdragon
Are you able to attach something securely to the inside - I'm thinking of a small winch, like they use in bike transporters which is remotely hand/button operated. but I'm guessing you may still need help with that.

Do the insurance insist on a shed? Would they accept a bike barn cover and a ground anchor? If it's ok overnight outside i can't see why they'd quibble about it being there for longer. - After all if you park up by the shops there's no shed - and more potential for thievery.
snapdragon
QUOTE(Paula @ Sep 1 2009, 03:42 PM) *

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and a pulley line that is secured to a wall with possibly even a remote control .... Any one knows of anything like that?
sorry Paula - I missed that - yes I've seen them in use to haul bikes into vans (when mine was picked up to send off to her new owner)
some on ebay - electric winch
snapdragon
Or put her into the shop for a service???? wink1.gif
Wilf
An electric winch off a land rover or a tail lift off a transit/luton might work.
Paula
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QUOTE(snapdragon @ Sep 1 2009, 07:38 PM) *

Or put her into the shop for a service???? wink1.gif



what 5 weeks at a time? LOL
snoopyjon
Hi Paula,

If you really do want a shed, you certainly don't need to spend £2,500... I have a 16 foot by 10 foot shed, which I can easily fit four bikes into (not so much now I've filled it with cupboards and shelves - my limit is 3 now) and it cost me £1,200 from Littlewoods. I bought it from the catalogue because they did a buy now pay a year later scheme at 0% interest, and I paid it off before the payments were actually due. I know I paid a premium getting it from the catalogue, but my point is the same shed elsewhere would have been cheaper.

Carole Nash are perfectly happy to insure the bike in there, and didn't even require me to have a ground anchor or anything. It's also a brilliant bolt hole for me to get away from the wife lbhh.gif

However, a winch is a cheaper option still.

Cheers,

Jon.
Paula
QUOTE(snoopyjon @ Sep 2 2009, 11:48 AM) *

Hi Paula,

If you really do want a shed, you certainly don't need to spend £2,500... I have a 16 foot by 10 foot shed, which I can easily fit four bikes into (not so much now I've filled it with cupboards and shelves - my limit is 3 now) and it cost me £1,200 from Littlewoods. I bought it from the catalogue because they did a buy now pay a year later scheme at 0% interest, and I paid it off before the payments were actually due. I know I paid a premium getting it from the catalogue, but my point is the same shed elsewhere would have been cheaper.

Carole Nash are perfectly happy to insure the bike in there, and didn't even require me to have a ground anchor or anything. It's also a brilliant bolt hole for me to get away from the wife lbhh.gif

However, a winch is a cheaper option still.

Cheers,

Jon.



I dont really have the room for a shed my only land is a chapel forecour... width available about the width of my bike plus walls. so winch or longer slope it is..

Next question what and where do I use to attach winch to bike safe ly? any strong pulling points... after all i will walk alongside gently helping it along.
OleManRiver
Possibly a stupid question....

Couldn't you just bribe a couple of mates with a few pints to help you get it up there?

That's what I did when I bought my Virago* - my mate and I were able to _lift_ it up into a van pretty easily..


(* tips for new riders: Do some research before buying a bike sight-unseen off the internet. A 535 Virago is NOT a suitable bike for a 6'5" bloke.)
snapdragon
QUOTE(Paula @ Sep 2 2009, 12:34 PM) *

I dont really have the room for a shed my only land is a chapel forecour... width available about the width of my bike plus walls. so winch or longer slope it is..

Next question what and where do I use to attach winch to bike safe ly? any strong pulling points... after all i will walk alongside gently helping it along.

Shame you can't build a roof and 'ends' between the walls Paula sad1.gif

You'll need a strong 'eye' or other fixing in a wall or concrete floor, I'd guess the winch straps or chain would be best round the handlebars or the front bodywork section /forks of the scoot
snapdragon
QUOTE(Paula @ Sep 2 2009, 11:22 AM) *

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what 5 weeks at a time? LOL

Well that depends on how friendly they are (and how much storage space they have)
Paula
Quick update, strapping anything to a scooter to attach a winch may damage bodywork So we changed the slope by lengthening it, we raised the levels where I walk on alongside of bike and I slowly take the bike up with engine. I use the same sloop down same method but no engine just braking power.. It works but it aint easy. Thanks for all advice. Since march 2009 I have managed to RIDE almost 8000 miles... and oh yes I love to bike.. darned another service coming up.
VANDEEN
QUOTE(Paula @ Sep 29 2009, 10:39 AM) *

Since march 2009 I have managed to RIDE almost 8000 miles... and oh yes I love to bike.. darned another service coming up.


bowdown.gif You'll have put a lot of people in the shade on here with a mileage like that, and all on a scooter cool2.gif

I'll always remember the look of shock on the bikers faces up in the borders one evening. I was out alone on my 125 about 80 miles from home enjoying a ride out, I didn't think it was unusuall at all but him and his mates were pretty gobsmacked.

Keep on loving it beer.gif
Fazerstun
QUOTE(VANDEEN @ Sep 29 2009, 01:18 PM) *

bowdown.gif You'll have put a lot of people in the shade on here with a mileage like that, and all on a scooter cool2.gif

I'll always remember the look of shock on the bikers faces up in the borders one evening. I was out alone on my 125 about 80 miles from home enjoying a ride out, I didn't think it was unusuall at all but him and his mates were pretty gobsmacked.

Keep on loving it beer.gif

Click to view attachment Nice going wink1.gif

I do remember riding up to Foxes to meet some forum members one Sunday. When we got back some mates asked where we'd been - I said "To Oxford, for coffee" I did get some funny looks lbhh.gif
Defiler
QUOTE(Paula @ Sep 29 2009, 10:39 AM) *

Thanks for all advice. Since march 2009 I have managed to RIDE almost 8000 miles... and oh yes I love to bike.. darned another service coming up.


8000 miles in 6 months is good going! I tend to cover about 7000 miles in a year (bikes are off the road for 3 months), so you're well ahead of me smile1.gif

I suspect a great many people on here are ahead of me though!
Paula
Well the first 3000 were to pass my test. (125cc Honda S-Wing) The next 5000 were sheer love of riding on a Suzuki Burgman 400AN. I often get a strange look when I have no difficulty keeping up with power racers I may not have the 110 or more MPH but I do occasionall zap on 105 (not often its a silly speed) However it doesnot take much with this bike so a breakfast meeting 150 miles away... is a doddle. Nice thing was all the miles were simply fun runs... so huge smile I have. Hubbie is a bike widower he wont ride pillion.. oh well. ;-) the only thing I dont like about biking..... is gettting up early to meet up for breakfast after all a 10 oclock meet means getting up at 6 .....jikes! Less Miles now coming up for winter holidays in the sun.. shame I cant pack the bike.
BikerGran
QUOTE(VANDEEN @ Sep 29 2009, 01:18 PM) *

I'll always remember the look of shock on the bikers faces up in the borders one evening. I was out alone on my 125 about 80 miles from home enjoying a ride out, I didn't think it was unusuall at all but him and his mates were pretty gobsmacked.


I went touring on Normandy/Brittany on my 100cc bike, no problem! Same thing tho, people are amazed! Can't see why, it does the same as a bigger bike just a bit slower.


QUOTE(Fazerstun @ Sep 29 2009, 01:23 PM) *

Click to view attachment Nice going wink1.gif

I do remember riding up to Foxes to meet some forum members one Sunday. When we got back some mates asked where we'd been - I said "To Oxford, for coffee" I did get some funny looks lbhh.gif


Even my daughter, a biker herself, was a bit surprised when I rode to Littlehampton one day to meet some friends for fish n chips!
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