It would seem twist and go for want of a better description is finally making some sense to the big manufacturers. Here a few of the latest deffinetly-maybe's of the future.

Honda griffon , 750 four , frame mounted engine pseudo up down gears etc.

Suzuki g-strider, 1000cc twin , 17 and 16 inch wheels etc etc....

My favourite, gilera ferro, 850 v twin with cvt and pseudo up down etc etc.

Thing is these bikes are all the same basic principle - frame mounted engine with a fifty fifty weight split and seemless transmission. Funny thing is that i bet most people would say the ferro is a motorbike ( dont be fooled into thinking its anything like the DNA) while the other two are scooters. what dya say?

Talking of the Ferro if thathad ducati on the tank and chain drive it would sell like hot cakes.

That Honda looks quite nice.

the Ferro would need to have front foot pegs for me to be comfortable on it. Funny i would have thought they would come as standard.

Youve lost me ace. What do you mean? Front highway pegs like a Hardly? The rider footrests are there - they are where you would normally expect them to be maybe the lack of gear lever hides the one on the nearside and the picture is square on.

made you look though..... !

i love the gillera that's a beauty, although the other two are certainly head turners as well, i must admit, i've seen loads of big scoots round our way just lately could be a turn in trends, seems a lot of commuters are begining to see the use of scooters to get around, cheap to tax/run and free parking.
Parking prices in any major city these days is abso fecking horrendous.
I wonder how long before the councils catch on and start charging for bike parking??