Hi All, I would like some help from you seasoned riders with tips about visor misting up. When riding I find that my Visor gets a kind of wet layer on the inside build up which makes it hard to see things at night and I end up just opening the visor till it dries out then closing it again. I assume this is some kind of anti fog thing and wondered if it was normal and if it was normal, do you wipe the inside of your visor with your gloves or similar?

Thanks for any advice given!

I just open it slightly in the ratchet so there is an airflow across it.

Thankyou Wareshome, Ill just try opening it slightly rather than fully. Something someone else said to do was rub a small amount of fairly liquid on the inside of the visor but perhaps he meant if the visor wasn't already anti fog thingamajiggied.

Aye, I'd make sure it was fairly liquid too

Aye, all the anti-fog stuff do is stop misting, when the water vapour forms little droplets that bend the light. They do this by breaking the surface tension so the droplets form an even coating instead.

However dark night and oncoming headlights it can reach the point where the surface has so much water that it still causes issues and there isnt much you can do about it. I find I reach that point with vents closed at slow speeds but I'm okay with vents open or at high speeds. Does mean that my eyes water when its cold but the only way I have found to avoid that is to keep opening and shutting the vents dependent on speed...

Fairy liquid just breaks the surface tension same as anything else, this shows that your demisting coating IS working, there is just so much moisture that you still have problems.

I wasn't going to mention that.

haha my inline spelling checker does not compensate for my stupidity

Thanks Finn, I'll have a mess with my vents when I am out next. The speeds I am doing currently though while learning probably contributes the most to the misting up.

Pinlock system

New I saw a pinlock system for my Visor but had no idea wtf they are. So what are they? Some kind of second skin orso?

Pinlock here and here

Or I use

Fog City Inserts here these ones simply stick on to the inside of your visor, i suppose its like double glazing in a way, works for me anyway

It's treated plastic with a rubber seal. Double glazing was a good analogy. When you buy it you get a template to put over your visor where you need to put 2 screw holes for the pins. Then the insert just clips between them. Pins come with it too. Some helmets come with it already fitted.

I use a fog city insert and it still suffers the same problem with waterlogging btw.I cant see that a pinlock would be any different in that regard

Thanks for the info guys most helpful.

I think i'll go with the cheapest solution for now and just open it slightly to let the air in and look into drilling holes a bit later on if that doesn't help any.

The pins force the Pinlock tighter onto the visor. I personally have ridden in some right torrential stuff and never had a drop inside the Pinlock insert.

You are all avoiding the easy option, just hold your breath, with practice you should be able to manage about 5 miles before passing out




Miz.

heh, some good responces there. I've got a pinlock from HG, for about a month, be riding in all conditions.

rain, snow, fog, sun, cold wet nights.

never had a problem with a pinlock in my arai, apart from really cold days when stopped with all the vents closed. and even then, it was a really small misty section on the bottom. open chin or eyebrow vents, misting goes away when stationary

Err, I didnt say anything about rain leaking onto the visor/insert.

Nor did I say anything about misting up.

What I believe the OP was talking about which I have found aswell is that although the visor doesnt mist up, the water from your breath gradually builds up until it causes the car headlights to star quite badly. When you look at the inside of the visor/insert whatever you can see it is wet which is causing the effect. The only solution I have found is to have enough ventilation to shift the water but unfortunately that means watery/cold eyes when the temperature gets close to subzero.

What i find most annoying is that I've spent the money on the fog city set up which works brilliantly, unfortunately though they do not make a similar item to fit on my prescription glasses, which do fog up quite easily

exactly why I wear contacts.

you can try some bob heath spray but it tends to only work if you apply it just before riding.

Again, unfortunately I can't wear contacts, I have tried the "mer all clear" on the lenses but I've never thought it did that much good, I've never used immediately before a ride, will try that next time, cheers

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No idea why you cant wear contacts but have you checked with the opticians recently? Some of the newer kinds let a lot more oxygen through so most people who "cant wear contacts" (eg eyes too dry etc) can wear them fine now. I wear the ones you can keep in and dont need to remove for a month although I only wear them during the week so its 5 days in, 2 days out - come out friday night, go in sunday night rest of the time basically forget about them.

Most people just seem to be squeamish about sticking their finger in their eye but you get used to it.

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Exactly what is happening. It's the layer of water obscuring my vision at night from oncoming headlights.

best solution-


If it fits good, get a Suomy Spec1-R. they dont have a ratcheting system, its locked up, or locked shut, and smooth the rest of the way, so you can put your visor open a couple mm, just enough to keep the mist off, but not enough to make it too cold. and they are REALLY nice lids (IMO)

Failing that, the pinlock is brilliant, had one on my Lazer, only problem with it, is 2 years down the road, it now moves, creating a gap between the visor and the inner layer, causing it to fog up on the inside, taking about 4 times longer to clear out with it fully open.... pain in the rain.... dont know how to fix it. not worth trying as the Suomy has taken over responsibility of brain bucket.


price wise, the Spec1-R is on sale by mine for £100.... was around the £250 mark when it came out.

I'll look into that Rebo, Thank you

Well I was out tonight and just left the visor open slightly and that cured my condensation issue but i got a cold nose so i'll be getting a balaclava or similar which should cure that. Thanks for all your help guys, i'll still look into a pinlock system later when i get out and about more regularly.

Bike balaclavas won't help - they have the faces cut out....... you'd be better with a neckwarmer that you can pull over yer face

Or get one of these

people will try to sell any old sh!te.

Was thinking more along the lines of one of these

And some get away with it....