Hi All,

about to have a Datatool System 3 Alarm fitted to my shiny new SV650.. Does anyone have any comments/experience with/about the System 3 alarms???

MM


Only 5 days to go!!!!

In my opinion alarms on a bike are a waste of time, 2 guys fire the bike in the back of a van one drives and the other disconects the alarm.
A good lock of some kind would cause a thief more trouble than an alarm.
How many times have you ignored an alarm?

Agreed...thats why a oxford Monster chain/Lock is on the shopping list for tomorrow... Hein Gerike have them for £50 off.... £99 instead of £149. Sold Secure and Thatcham rated.

Given a choice the thief will hopefully go for the unlocked unalarmed bike first!!

Plus parking at work, cannot lock it up to anything but it does live close enough to my office to be able to hear the alarm...


MM

Sounds like a good system. TC. Pity it wasn't taken up. At £200 to protect your pride and joy, it would have been money well spent.

This may sound a strange thing to say ( to at least one member of the forum at least) but alarms are little use at saving your bike form being nicked. I speak as someone whose had three datatool 3 systems fitted o bikes and lost all three to thieves.
A basic understanding of bike electrics helps no end. If you earth out most coils they will not fire so a simple second hand kill switch hiddne somewhere will effect a decent immobiliser. A simple timer circuit (555 boards from rs) with a piezzo siren and tilt or vibration switch will do the rest.

you can also arrange some transistors hard on to act as relays so these will detect voltage drop, or high current drain if you like, on the ignition circuit and switch other transistors to earth out the coilcs or cdi and job done.

But nothing will stop proffessional theives who dont give a sh!t if youre bike will run just wether or not they can cart it off and strip it.

alarms should make a noise so if the feckers are outside your house trying to nick your bike and you can get there in time and feck them up with some lead pipe or similar.

Most alarms and datatool, meta, included are based around such simple circuitry that you would be astonsihed at how little a system like these could be built for.

there is in my opinion only , a collaboration between alarm /immobiliser builders and insurance companies to skin us alive - why do you HAVE to have a cat one system to insure an R1 yet the bike still sits near if not at the top of the most nicked bikes list?

Well done TC by the way - I was expecting a more toe the line post but maybe that says more about my predelictions than your integrity so i appologise. I am a grassy knoll conspiracy believer so who knows?

I had a Datatool alarm on my last bike, I dont know which one, if it rained when you had the alarm set you couldn't switch the alarm off. I read on another forum of the same problem after washing the bike.

I have a very cheap bicycle alarm on my bike ( £5.99 from B & Q )
it consist of a wire rope type lead that goes thru the wheel & plugs into the box once set it needs a key to turn it off, if the wire is cut it goes off if you move the box it goes off 120 decibels or so it says.

when i went to insure my bike they asked where it was kept overnight.
is it in a garage they asked
no i said I keep it in my back garden
Well that is not all that safe then is it they said.
Well let me tell you about my back garden says i
( bloke sighs) go on then says he

my garden has a metal gate hinges bolted & cemented into a 8 foot wall that surrounds the entire garden.
the bike is locked to the side of a 10 foot square metal cage ( the bike is inside the cage ) i did admit that the gate of the cage that opens into the garden is left open.

So he says they could climb over the wall walk into the cage cut your lock off & cut the lock off the inside off the gate & wheel your bike out.

Yes they could says i

but i have other security as well as the wall the gate the cage

go he says tell me then

I have sercurity lighting in my garden 500watt spots 2 off

a cctv camera that starts recording when the lights go on

oh yeah & 8 dobermans & 2 staffs that run around in the garden

oh now if you had mentioned the dogs before.

i didnt but tell me do you still think my bike would be safer in a garage

no i dont so i got a discount because my bike is kept on " VERY SERCURE PREMISSES"