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Aidan8888
me again, i was wondering how many people didnt get a 125 after there CBT, and instead opted for lessons and a test then got a 250 or the like for their two year probationary period, cheers, aidan.

btw, how much would this cost

thanks
StooeyC
Dunno if im right or not, but you can get CBT and lesson packages, making it cheaper. But as far as i know, you'd be paying about 20 quid an hour for lessons? Some say you should get lessons and don't waste your money on a 125. Get lessons, pass your test, then get a bike. But i've bought a 125 which i will learn on and then hopefully i'll eventually pass my full license.

As for buying a bike after your CBT, it depends on what you want to do. Spend money on lessons, where you'll probably be learning on a CG and then take your test which will also be on a CG.

It all depends on how you want to learn and what you want to spend

Hope i've helped

Stooeyc
Aidan8888
thanks Stooey, ill look in to packages
StooeyC
I think a mate told me he was doing a CBT and getting 6 lessons with it, and it was around 200-250. CBT is usually 80-100 quid, depending on how much your school wants to charger, and where you live. Can't really tell you if that's a good price because i don't know how long the lessons are. But either way i think you are getting money off in a package smile1.gif

good luck with it anyway. don't worry about learning. CBT instructors are great grin.gif
Aidan8888
i rang up my local trainig centre and they said i need to do a cbt for 75, theory for 20 and a restricted test for 60, so thats 155, plus about 7 lessons at 25 pound each, so another 175, so that looks like a total of 335ish. sound about right?
StooeyC
75 is a pretty decent price for CBT. 20 for theory sounds pretty good to me, infact i thought it was way more. I'll find out soon, i'm taking mine in the next month or so smile1.gif sounds pretty decent to me. 335 for cbt, theory, full license and lessons. with all that you cant go wrong, i will take some lessons if i get the dosh!
lightyears
oh no! stoo with a almost full license. i smell some pain.
StooeyC
QUOTE(lightyears @ Aug 6 2007, 03:06 PM) *

oh no! stoo with a almost full license. i smell some pain.


Harhar.

....
lightyears
sarcasm is the lowest form of whit you know. its also the best
StooeyC
QUOTE(lightyears @ Aug 6 2007, 03:43 PM) *

sarcasm is the lowest form of whit you know. its also the best


I hate sarcasm simply because i had a year and a half of it from an Ex. Oh my days am i happy i don't have to put up with that anymore lbhh.gif
rc30
QUOTE(Aidan8888 @ Aug 6 2007, 02:39 PM) *

me again, i was wondering how many people didnt get a 125 after there CBT


I did an all in package, including the bike hire, so I didn't need to get my own 125. Spent a week buzzing round Wallington/Carshalton/Purley/Clapham/Tooting on a CG125 with an instructor and a few other hopefuls, took my test at Wallington and then bought a Triumph the next day.
StooeyC
QUOTE(rc30 @ Aug 6 2007, 03:47 PM) *

I did an all in package, including the bike hire, so I didn't need to get my own 125. Spent a week buzzing round Wallington/Carshalton/Purley/Clapham/Tooting on a CG125 with an instructor and a few other hopefuls, took my test at Wallington and then bought a Triumph the next day.


You passed that quickly? ooh2.gif
MarkM
If you can get the CBT, lessons, theory and test dates all to coincide,

you can do the test in week!

Mark
rc30
QUOTE(StooeyC @ Aug 6 2007, 03:50 PM) *

You passed that quickly? ooh2.gif


1 day for CBT
3 days on the road lessons with instructor, and for the last two days taking the bike home in the evening to practise.
Test on 5th day.

My CBT was a week before my 3 days of lessons, due to the school having to fit me into slots in their appointments so that they could book the test in advance.

This was in 1995 before the current tests came in, so I didn't have to worry about two years on a restricted bike or direct access, and there wasn't the theory and hazard perception tests that there are now. But given that you can do those any time prior to going out on the road, you could still do the practical stuff in a week.

It cost me about 450 quid IIRC which included bike hire, insurance, and if I wanted them loan of helmet and gloves, but I already had some of my gear apart from the leather strides and "proper" boots.
StooeyC
So, correct me if im wrong.

You started riding geared bikes, and a week later you had a full license? O.o
rc30
QUOTE(StooeyC @ Aug 6 2007, 04:30 PM) *

So, correct me if im wrong.

You started riding geared bikes, and a week later you had a full license? O.o


Essentially, yes, although several years previously, like when I was at school*, I used to ride around my mate's farm on a BSA bantam so I had some idea about clutch and gears, but pretty rusty. First few attempts at moving off were pretty jerky, but the instructors soon had us riding around in big circles accelerating, changing up, slowing down, changing down again, and so on.

* I left school in 1979, so 16 years previous.
StooeyC
BSA bantam! what a bike grin.gif
Defiler
QUOTE(StooeyC @ Aug 6 2007, 04:30 PM) *

So, correct me if im wrong.

You started riding geared bikes, and a week later you had a full license? O.o

Yep - I could have done that. It used to be quite a popular way to do it - 5 full days. You'd just take a week off work, and come back on a bike instead of the bus.

You just have to be bloody careful finding your feet...
rc30
QUOTE(Defiler @ Aug 6 2007, 08:44 PM) *

You'd just take a week off work, and come back on a bike instead of the bus.

Pretty much exactly the way it went, except s/bus/train/


QUOTE(Defiler @ Aug 6 2007, 08:44 PM) *

You just have to be bloody careful finding your feet...

I found mine in central London. Bit of an eye opener, for your first commute.
Defiler
QUOTE(rc30 @ Aug 7 2007, 09:46 AM) *

Pretty much exactly the way it went, except s/bus/train/

Why does my brain process regexps automatically nowadays? cry.gif
Fazerstun
QUOTE(Aidan8888 @ Aug 6 2007, 02:39 PM) *

me again, i was wondering how many people didnt get a 125 after there CBT, and instead opted for lessons and a test then got a 250 or the like for their two year probationary period, cheers, aidan.

btw, how much would this cost

thanks

Me
I didn't have a probationary period - I passed my Direct Access and went straight to a 600.

AFAIA you can't ride a 250 on a restricted licence - unless of course it's been restricted too.


Restricted, restricted - hmmm, now where have I heard that word before? zipped.gif
rc30
QUOTE(Fazerstun @ Aug 7 2007, 10:21 AM) *

AFAIA you can't ride a 250 on a restricted licence - unless of course it's been restricted too.


If the licence is a full licence in its two year restricted period, and the 250 makes under 25kW (33bhp) and the power to weight ratio is not exceeded, then there's no reason why not. That's the whole point of the two year period, to be able to step up slightly from a learner bike, but not too far.

the power to weight ratio is 0.16kW/kg which equates to 0.21 bhp/kg so if you had a bike that made the full power allowed it would have to weigh in excess of 156.25 kg - some trail bikes almost or actually fail this requirement (look at a 225 Serow - very borderline as the bike is so light).
Aidan8888
thanks for the info
Anth
QUOTE(Fazerstun @ Aug 7 2007, 10:21 AM) *
AFAIA you can't ride a 250 on a restricted licence - unless of course it's been restricted too.
Yeah you can, as long as the 250 isn't stupidly powerful loke some of the Race Reps are.

I think the recent crops of CB250's are about 28BHP- far below the 33BHP limit smile1.gif

Having a quick look at the BAT listings- there's plenty of 250's available without restriction.
MarkM
I thought you were restricted to nothing more than a 125cc for the two years or age 21?

Mark
rc30
QUOTE(MarkM @ Aug 8 2007, 11:25 AM) *

I thought you were restricted to nothing more than a 125cc for the two years or age 21?


There is no capacity limit for the two years that you have to wait for your full-but-not-really "A" licence to mature into a full-really licence, just a limit on power and power to weight ratio. If you have a light motorcycle "A1" licence you are limited to 125cc permanently, unless and until you retake the test on the right equipment to get an "A".

So if you're 17 and have passed your A test and are in your two years gaining experience period you could, should you wish, ride a 2.3l Rocket III or a chevy powered Boss Hoss provided it was correctly power limited.
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