QUOTE(NigeC @ Nov 9 2006, 10:54 AM)

i don't think i've owned a road bike that doesn't require a lot rider input to wheelie, even the EXUP, you just can't accidentally wheelie it if your in full control
the only time its ever done one was a hump in a road, accerating from a bend.. but feck me a 2 year kid on a pushbike would of wheelied off that hump lol it didn't require 120+ ponnies to achieve
It was 1980, one brand new X7 two lads going on holiday, not enough cash to take two bikes and no cash to buy luggage, hence the pillion had to wear a aluminium framed rucksack that held all clothes and camping gear.
Despite the fact that we were still running the bike in for the first 100 miles of the trip, the bike was so light at the front and by now so damn heavy at the back - well!
For two weeks we took turns in pulling away with back brake hard on, absolute minimum revs, (not as minimum as you would have wanted on a 2 stroke of course) and slipping the clutch more that the slipiest of slippy things from the slippy thing shop.
The best we did was to keep the front wheel about two inches off the ground.
It was a right bugger especially when you took ya turn as pillion, wheelie with all that weight on ya back no fun. At least once your feet loged under the riders armpits you knew you could fall back no further
Take your point though re modern bikes.
Even full Givi luggage plus stuff on top of top box rack and pillion, the front wheel of the Busa will only lift ever so slightly on a fast overtake uphill. Unless of course you want to lift it - but then why would I? That would slow me down, if I want to go slower, I back off or brake.